Do enemies that rez get DP? - Guild Wars Forums

Kerwyn Nasilan · Oct 12, 2008, 04:12 PM // 16:12

Well I am fighting a boss mob in Jokos that is basically all paragons and monks to it is a big rez fest, I am basiclaly trying to out DP them, what I need to know is do they acually get DP?
Thanks

zelgadissan · Oct 12, 2008, 04:16 PM // 16:16

I don't have an official answer, but it's always seemed to me they died a little faster each time. My personal idea is that they do gain DP, but I'll let somebody else officially answer the question.

BTW I don't think I would have got through vanquishing Joko's Domain without Frozen Soil, so that's a suggestion depending on where the mob is.

Edit: another thought that just came to my head - enemies can gain experience, as proven with death-leveling in Pre, so if they can gain experience why not gain DP?

crazybanshee · Oct 12, 2008, 04:45 PM // 16:45

I never noticed a difference (if you want a quick test of it, do the jade quarry quest and don't lay down frozen soil :/ ) they should since henchies get dp, but they never seem to be affected that much.

HawkofStorms · Oct 12, 2008, 04:46 PM // 16:46

I'm with zelgadissan. I THINK they do get DP, as they seem to die faster the second time. It'd be kinda hard to prove without like a grenth's balance use to check though.

lordheinous · Oct 12, 2008, 04:50 PM // 16:50

I have definitely noticed monsters that die faster if they're ressed multiple times. However, it is definite that there are at least some monsters that don't get dp, as some have this passive skill :http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Monst..._death_penalty
No idea which ones use it though, as it isn't actually a visible skill.

Konig Des Todes · Oct 12, 2008, 05:01 PM // 17:01

I don't think monsters get DP, but it is hard to tell really, what you need to do is calculate the life a monster has before it's first death, have it rez, then do an estimate on how much life it has after being rez (which would have to be done with fighting 2 enemies, and soloing).

Seeing how henchmen and heroes do, I would assume the monsters do too, but I cannot be certain.

Edit: @ above post: Forgot about that passive skill. I would have to say that if that skill is not on every monster, I'd say it is on the Bosses, but like you said, it's hard to tell (and I don't think there is someone who is bored enough to go test a DP on every possible monster).

citizensmith1001 · Oct 12, 2008, 05:55 PM // 17:55

Does this help ?
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Monst..._death_penalty

wind fire and ice · Oct 12, 2008, 05:59 PM // 17:59

They seem to get DP..but if they rez why not just bring FS?

dilan155 · Oct 12, 2008, 06:21 PM // 18:21

i think some of them do get it, bosses might not, it needs testing but its hard to test it out. maybe a 55 monk counting the number of times of SoJ hit or something?

LicensedLuny · Oct 12, 2008, 09:23 PM // 21:23

While there may be some critters that don't get DP, I'm with the, "I don't know for a fact, but my experience sure does seem like they do," camp.

In Slaver's, if we don't have Frozen Soil up and some of the Stone Summit get ressed, they seem a lot easier to kill. There are some Charr that carry Res Sigs. If they get one off, whatever they woke up usually seems to die faster, too.

Side note, regarding the OP, if the Ancient Undead's Signet of Return is the problem and you don't want to bring Frozen Soil, you might try stuff like Ignorance or Primal Echoes. Out DP'ing a group in PvE seems like a drastic approach. Not to criticize, I'm just thinking there's probably a faster way.

Perfected Shadow · Oct 12, 2008, 09:39 PM // 21:39

Can enemies get rid of DP though? Do they get exp or something when they kill you?

zelgadissan · Oct 12, 2008, 09:45 PM // 21:45

^Yes, enemies can gain experience. It's how the Legendary Defender of Ascalon title is obtained.

Oct 12, 2008, 04:12 PM // 16:12	#1
Kerwyn Nasilan Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: WHERE DO YOU THINK Profession: W/	Do enemies that rez get DP? Well I am fighting a boss mob in Jokos that is basically all paragons and monks to it is a big rez fest, I am basiclaly trying to out DP them, what I need to know is do they acually get DP? Thanks

Oct 12, 2008, 04:16 PM // 16:16	#2
zelgadissan Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2008 Guild: The Warrior Priests [WP] Profession: Me/Rt	I don't have an official answer, but it's always seemed to me they died a little faster each time. My personal idea is that they do gain DP, but I'll let somebody else officially answer the question. BTW I don't think I would have got through vanquishing Joko's Domain without Frozen Soil, so that's a suggestion depending on where the mob is. Edit: another thought that just came to my head - enemies can gain experience, as proven with death-leveling in Pre, so if they can gain experience why not gain DP? Last edited by zelgadissan; Oct 12, 2008 at 07:50 PM // 19:50..

Oct 12, 2008, 05:01 PM // 17:01	#6
Konig Des Todes Ooo, pretty flower Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Citadel of the Decayed Guild: The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore] Profession: N/	I don't think monsters get DP, but it is hard to tell really, what you need to do is calculate the life a monster has before it's first death, have it rez, then do an estimate on how much life it has after being rez (which would have to be done with fighting 2 enemies, and soloing). Seeing how henchmen and heroes do, I would assume the monsters do too, but I cannot be certain. Edit: @ above post: Forgot about that passive skill. I would have to say that if that skill is not on every monster, I'd say it is on the Bosses, but like you said, it's hard to tell (and I don't think there is someone who is bored enough to go test a DP on every possible monster). Last edited by Konig Des Todes; Oct 12, 2008 at 05:12 PM // 17:12..

Oct 12, 2008, 04:45 PM // 16:45	#3
crazybanshee Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Look out! Profession: E/	I never noticed a difference (if you want a quick test of it, do the jade quarry quest and don't lay down frozen soil :/ ) they should since henchies get dp, but they never seem to be affected that much.

Oct 12, 2008, 04:46 PM // 16:46	#4
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	I'm with zelgadissan. I THINK they do get DP, as they seem to die faster the second time. It'd be kinda hard to prove without like a grenth's balance use to check though.

Oct 12, 2008, 04:50 PM // 16:50	#5
lordheinous Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2007	I have definitely noticed monsters that die faster if they're ressed multiple times. However, it is definite that there are at least some monsters that don't get dp, as some have this passive skill :http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Monst..._death_penalty No idea which ones use it though, as it isn't actually a visible skill.

Oct 12, 2008, 05:55 PM // 17:55	#7
citizensmith1001 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Behind You Guild: [RoaR] Profession: D/	Does this help ? http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Monst..._death_penalty

Oct 12, 2008, 05:59 PM // 17:59	#8
wind fire and ice Jungle Guide Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: There Guild: [ToA]	They seem to get DP..but if they rez why not just bring FS?

Oct 12, 2008, 06:21 PM // 18:21	#9
dilan155 Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2007 Location: living room Profession: N/	i think some of them do get it, bosses might not, it needs testing but its hard to test it out. maybe a 55 monk counting the number of times of SoJ hit or something?

Oct 12, 2008, 09:23 PM // 21:23	#10
LicensedLuny Badly Influenced Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Buying Humps! (No kidding! Check my buy thread) Guild: Hello Kitty Krewe [HKK] Forever!-ish	While there may be some critters that don't get DP, I'm with the, "I don't know for a fact, but my experience sure does seem like they do," camp. In Slaver's, if we don't have Frozen Soil up and some of the Stone Summit get ressed, they seem a lot easier to kill. There are some Charr that carry Res Sigs. If they get one off, whatever they woke up usually seems to die faster, too. Side note, regarding the OP, if the Ancient Undead's Signet of Return is the problem and you don't want to bring Frozen Soil, you might try stuff like Ignorance or Primal Echoes. Out DP'ing a group in PvE seems like a drastic approach. Not to criticize, I'm just thinking there's probably a faster way.

Oct 12, 2008, 09:39 PM // 21:39	#11
Perfected Shadow Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Zul'Aman Guild: Umes Uranger U[bot]	Can enemies get rid of DP though? Do they get exp or something when they kill you?

Oct 12, 2008, 09:45 PM // 21:45	#12
zelgadissan Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2008 Guild: The Warrior Priests [WP] Profession: Me/Rt	^Yes, enemies can gain experience. It's how the Legendary Defender of Ascalon title is obtained.